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Zinbiel's avatar

Great piece.

From where I stand, phenomenal consciousness and qualia are not simply vague, they are hybrid concepts that flit between different incompatible meanings.

I think that it is possible to be much more specific about what is wrong with the concept of phenomenal consciousness. The fact that it is hopelessly vague is a problem, of course, but adding specificity does not so much revive it as put it out of its misery.

I am surprised these terms persists, and you do a good job of pointing out the dynamics that keep them in circulation.

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phenomenal state and qualia are meaningful. phenomenal state is a state that is constituted by qualia. and qualia are such properties that constitute what it is like to have an experience. what-it-is-like is also meaningful. and to try to convey the concept or idea, i might ask...

when someone in pain or who is suffering would perhaps feel that their suffering is being undermined, they might say “you don’t know what’s like”. do you understand what that means?

I anticipate that you will respond, as you have done before, that

“I don’t think we can move from colloquial, ordinary uses of terms to the presumption that if the phrases in question are meaningful in those everyday contexts that therefore they’re meaningful in philosophical contexts”

and my answer here would just be: why the heck not? presumably there are many words, or set of words, you're using in colloquial contexts the same way in philosophical contexts, so then why can’t you do the same with ‘what-it-is-like’? how is it disanalogous?

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